Dutch St. Nick Met by Anti-Blackface Protest; 90 Arrested

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"http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-1 ... ested.html

http://www.bloomberg.com - By Elco van Groningen and Maud van Gaal Nov 15, 2014 7:05 PM GMT

Dutch St. Nick Met by Anti-Blackface Protest; 90 Arrested

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St. Nicholas brought fewer helpers in blackface to the Netherlands this year, though that wasn’t enough to appease anti-racism activists who clashed with supporters of the Dutch tradition.

Police arrested 90 people at the nationally televised St. Nicholas parade today in Gouda, Wouter Bos, the public prosecutor in The Hague, said by phone. Some 60 people were arrested for protesting outside designated areas, while 30 others, both supporters of the “Zwarte Piet” tradition as well as opponents, got into a shoving match that threatened public order, Bos said. All arrested will be released today, he added.

Prime Minister Mark Rutte criticized the protesters for their actions at the annual event, which marks the start of a three-week holiday season. For generations, St. Nicholas, known as Sinterklaas in Dutch, has arrived on a boat in the company of legions of “Black Petes” -- helpers typically portrayed by white people in blackface paint, red lips and curly wigs, wearing 17th century costumes.

“I’m here to show that we as descendants of slaves, who in any case have been abused by the Netherlands, no longer tolerate that 300 or something black look-alike slaves accompany the Saint,” one protester said on NOS television while being escorted away from the parade route by police.

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Some Dutch people are fighting to protect the tradition, saying there’s nothing negative about Black Pete being black, while opponents have sued the city of Amsterdam to prevent a parade with any blackfaced Petes.

Paintless Petes

Filmmaker Sunny Bergmann this month releases “Our Colonial Hangover,” a video where Black Petes visit Britain and encounter hostility from outraged Londoners, including comedian Russell Brand. Bergmann was arrested today as she filmed the protests, the ANP news wire said.

“Everybody is allowed to discuss, we can endlessly measure each other up in the Netherlands about the color of Black Pete, but you shouldn’t disrupt children’s festivities in such a way,” Rutte said today at a political event in Den Bosch, calling the situation “intensely sad.”

Sinterklaas arrives on his boat every year on the Saturday three weeks before the fifth of December, when the Dutch traditionally exchange gifts rather than on Christmas. Dec. 6 is St. Nicholas Day.

For the first time ever, not all of the helpers awaiting the white-bearded Sinterklaas were in blackface. Some were only partly covered in paint, to make it look like soot. There were also Petes without any paint on their faces, and others made up to look more like clowns.

Broadcast Importance

In a nightly “Saint Nick News” show aired in the lead-up to today’s Gouda event, public broadcaster NTR had introduced a story line where the Black Petes had gone missing from the boat and Dutch citizens offered to dress up in Pete outfits and practice jumping through chimneys to deliver gifts.

“The daily news show and the broadcast of the arrival are the two defining public manifestations of the event, and therefore they set the tone,” said Peter Jan Margry, a professor of European ethnology at the University of Amsterdam, in a Nov. 14 interview. “In that respect, it’s an important step,” he said of the demographic changes to Black Pete.

The tradition was modified a year after a panel advising the United Nations questioned whether Black Petes were racist, drawing international scrutiny and stoking a national debate.

Rutte’s Support

The Prime Minister backs Black Pete as he is, as did 82 percent of 27,000 participants in a poll by Dutch TV program EenVandaag last month. Just 13 percent favored changes to the character’s appearance.

“I’ve said it more often: A Black Pete is black, that’s a given,” Rutte said at a press conference yesterday. “That’s not a political statement, that’s a statement of fact. Personally, I think he can continue to be black.” He said it was up to society to decide whether to change the tradition.

It’s unclear when the Dutch Saint Nicholas, by legend a bishop who spends most of the year in Spain, acquired black helpers. Many trace the modern version of the tale to an 1850 book called “Saint Nicholas and His Servant,” in which an African boy accompanied St. Nick.

St. Nick himself sought to play down the controversy today.

“The Netherlands doesn’t have to worry about the Petes, there has been some hassle, but in the end everything always turns out alright by itself,” Sinterklaas, responding to a reporter’s questions about the missing Petes, said as he stepped ashore.

To contact the reporters on this story: Maud van Gaal in Amsterdam at mvangaal@bloomberg.net; Elco van Groningen in Amsterdam at vangroningen@bloomberg.net

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Celeste Perri at cperri@bloomberg.net Keith Campbell, Nancy Moran"


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lol damn thats so fucked up.

imagine them doing this thing in the states?

holy shit.

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Wow...
Ingrained racism, nicely done Dutch people.
...and some are aggressively defending black-face; they obviously either don't see it as racist (blind perhaps), they are outright bigots, or are completely and utterly ignorant to the meaning of either word.
Why oh why does whitey keep passing on these painfully obvious bigoted ways? Because they are taught that it's ok, it's tradition...like a good old fashioned Saturday night cross burning.
Pssst, hey whitey, your days are numbered ya fucktard, so you might as well enjoy as much of your ignorance as possible, it is after all - blissful.
Note: I use "whitey" to describe a way of life/attitude/belief system based mostly on the Christian Caucasian reality...or something like that.
As a person of caucasian persuasion, I am ashamed and embarrassed. Don't be confused, I'm not apologizing, without a doubt I'm not these or any morons keeper.
Some sad shit here folks, and it has absolutely nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with ignorance.

Remember the names of those who support Black Face, if for any reason, they've just labeled themselves as being a racist/bigot...job well done.

Someday, maybe, black children and white children will be allowed to play undisturbed...watch racism and bigotry melt away...
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:roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: who cares..they been doing it for years..moors,look it up....tons of yummy cookies and candy :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Maybe you'd prefer our version of Santas helper... :twisted:
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So black people doing white people is comedy but blackface is just racist. Come on world, serious.

How do you portray black people if your white and you don't colour your skin?

If ya don't your costume is pretty shit.
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dutch kids love blackpete , even the black ones ....
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Please. Won't somebody think of the children. :lol: :wink: :cry: :evil:
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Quazer wrote:Maybe you'd prefer our version of Santas helper... :twisted:
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so how does this work people:

this jabronie 'ron just posted all kinds of racist comments in of my posts…

https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... 41&t=29879

last post on page 1.

now he's commenting about racist remarks????

LOL!!!!!!!!

dude must have forgotten he's a racist and bigot... must be bipolar or schitzo

what a jabronie
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In Australia kids can't sing ba ba black sheep anymore. They now sing ra ra rainbow sheep.

And they don't want kids smoking drugs? come on? :mrgreen:
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dconstrukt wrote:so how does this work people:

this jabronie 'ron just posted all kinds of racist comments in of my posts…

https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... 41&t=29879

last post on page 1.

now he's commenting about racist remarks????

LOL!!!!!!!!

dude must have forgotten he's a racist and bigot... must be bipolar or schitzo

what a jabronie
The following is copied from another thread, because I'm being sharked there as well...

Jabronie? Racist? Bigot? Bipolar? Schitzo?
For the record, I'm none of those things.
Seems you've misinterpreted my meaning and intent, so here's another try...
If, but I think more in terms of when, the United States falls into another civil war, it will be based on socio-economics and racism.
Florida has a horrid record of civil and human rights violations, just have a look at what's happened to the Seminoles. I could go on with examples of how blacks and hispanics are treated, but you will have to learn that for yourself to believe it actually happened, and still does - even in your utopia version of south Florida. All one has to do is GOOGLE, or in your case, go have a chat with people who live in Lemon City or Riverside.
As I've previously commented, I have family in Florida, been there for more than 30 years, and I've heard plenty about blatant bigotry towards all races, religions, sexual orientation (that in itself is demeaning), you name it - they will hate on it. By "they" I mean the peckerwood, you know, whitey. It would be extremely ignorant of me (sound familiar, like you accusing me of being a racist/bigot) to think that all white people who reside in Florida are peckerwood, but one can't run away (stick head in sand or up ass perhaps) from the absolute fact that Florida is one of the most racist states in the US; it's in the south; it's controlled by a white majority (look at the state legislature), and then there is the inescapable past, which is also in the very present. Want more proof, have a look at the racial makeup of those imprisoned.
Also remarked in the other post, if/when the shit hits the fan, loud and proud whites will be the first victims, as they should...they continue to perpetuate the ignorance, mostly by teaching their children to hate.
In conclusion, if I am a racist, it would be against my own race. If I am a bigot, it's would be against my own race.
As for being bipolar, no, I stand by what I said earlier... I don't flip flop, like you'll be doing after reading this...
...and schitzo? If I were, do you think it wise to disrespect me in public? If I were schitzo, I'd be motivated to hunt you down, make an example out of you.
But I am none of those things... I'm just a stoner with an opinion.
If you are ignorant, truly ignorant, and disrespect me in public or private again, I won't be so understanding. Then you will be deserving of an epic beat down...
You've been fairly and reasonably warned. It's your choice, always has been...move on or be your own worst enemy.

I highly suggest that you refrain from subjecting others to your lunatic fringe rants, some may not be so understanding as I. Schitzo, remember?

Peace...
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This seems like a really contentious issue in the Netherlands. I don't understand it at all. Given a choice between this bollocks and the corporate mascot bollocks everyplace else it makes no difference anyway.
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