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sea72 wrote:http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/weed-pass-clash-cards

treetop wrote:BREAKING NEWS........

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php? ... ost5075099

Arjan and his teams wins first part of the case against the goverment proposed weedpass.

On the 18th of April Arjan and a legal team of 4 lawyers were in court claiming the new legislation proposed by the Dutch State, that would ban tourists/foreigners from entering cannabis coffee shops, is a violation of the Dutch constitution.

Arjan and his teams wins first part of the case against the goverment proposed weedpass.
Advice given to the department of Justice by the department of personal privacy is a positive outcome coffeeshops

On 28 april at 10 am the court will make a decision, even if they make a negative ruling, with this advice the government will not be able to pull through there plans.

Colino wrote:http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/wo ... 6336715357

piedpiperofvice wrote:

Uncle Ron wrote:Hey piedpiperofvice,
The ultimate goal is to close all coffee shops, the weed pass is just a (slower) means to an end.
The proof or resource I was asking about was in ref. to moving shops outside of the city. I thought perhaps you had a source.
There is no subsidizing or locking of real estate or devaluing...
I think in recent years the value of real estate in Amsterdam has been at an all time high, and will continue to climb. \
Look at the selling price of a canal house 10 years ago, less than 500,000. Today, good luck with finding one for under 1mil...
No real estate problems because of shops being closed, just the opposite.
Watch and see how quickly the spaces are taken over where all of the Rokerij shops were located, esp. the one on the corner of Haarlemerstraat.

The end is near for the coffee shop culture as we know it. I don't like it, you don't like it, but it is reality.
One last tid bit..... Some here need to be reminded that they aren't Dutch, it's not their country, and maybe they should turn their focus and energies in changing their own country.
Hmm, there might be something to this...
What is the prevalent reason why the world dislikes America? Capitalistic Expansionism. Stoners are no different.
If a majority of a society doesn't want cannabis, stop trying to force them to accept it.
If a majority of a society wanted cannabis to be legal, it would, all things considered.

I can't wait for 2 Jan 2013. Then maybe some can finally get a life.
Nah, some don't know how to stop whining about (mis)perceived social injustices.
Happy trails...

ok uncle ron ,again, thanks for response. our debate on "locking up" real estate reminds me of the cool hand luke video you put up earlier in the thread. let me try again because i am not sure by your response you understand what i am saying in that regard. i am saying that the government hopes by kicking out foreigners , limiting amount one can buy per day , limiting shops to a certain amount of customers and discouraging customers by forcing registration, that the coffeeshops will become unprofitable and will have to go bk and close. they would have to then give up their lease, sell their real estate or give up license and start a new business.. i am saying through benefit concerts, george soros types who favor legalization, and coordinated donations from stoners you subsidize the individual coffeeshops or at least some in the most prime of real estate . like as in coffeeshops say "hey , we dont have to go bankrupt because we get this extra funding. we can stay in business even though we have very few customers and should go out of business in traditional scenario. now we can keep the coffeeshop and the license and are open for business for as long as we get our donations, subsidy for the stoner community and benefactors" see you are now allowing a bunch of unproductive coffeeshops to retain their presence and allow a bunch of unproductive real estate to sit in hollands prime locations in the hopes that they will eventually change the law back so that they can go back to business as usual and we can withdraw our financial support and allow them to survive on their own again.. secondly, your statement about trying to force cannabis on the majority of society of society that does not want it is kind of off the mark. i would say the right to ingest into your body what you want is pretty much a fundamental human right. would slavery have been voted down in a majority rules vote, how bout interracial marriage, gay marriage ,right to abortion ,right to burn US flag etc.our civil liberties should never be put to the vote of a usually stupid majority.

piedpiperofvice wrote:

piedpiperofvice wrote:

Uncle Ron wrote:Hey piedpiperofvice,
The ultimate goal is to close all coffee shops, the weed pass is just a (slower) means to an end.
The proof or resource I was asking about was in ref. to moving shops outside of the city. I thought perhaps you had a source.
There is no subsidizing or locking of real estate or devaluing...
I think in recent years the value of real estate in Amsterdam has been at an all time high, and will continue to climb. \
Look at the selling price of a canal house 10 years ago, less than 500,000. Today, good luck with finding one for under 1mil...
No real estate problems because of shops being closed, just the opposite.
Watch and see how quickly the spaces are taken over where all of the Rokerij shops were located, esp. the one on the corner of Haarlemerstraat.

The end is near for the coffee shop culture as we know it. I don't like it, you don't like it, but it is reality.
One last tid bit..... Some here need to be reminded that they aren't Dutch, it's not their country, and maybe they should turn their focus and energies in changing their own country.
Hmm, there might be something to this...
What is the prevalent reason why the world dislikes America? Capitalistic Expansionism. Stoners are no different.
If a majority of a society doesn't want cannabis, stop trying to force them to accept it.
If a majority of a society wanted cannabis to be legal, it would, all things considered.

I can't wait for 2 Jan 2013. Then maybe some can finally get a life.
Nah, some don't know how to stop whining about (mis)perceived social injustices.
Happy trails...

ok uncle ron ,again, thanks for response. our debate on "locking up" real estate reminds me of the cool hand luke video you put up earlier in the thread. let me try again because i am not sure by your response you understand what i am saying in that regard. i am saying that the government hopes by kicking out foreigners , limiting amount one can buy per day , limiting shops to a certain amount of customers and discouraging customers by forcing registration, that the coffeeshops will become unprofitable and will have to go bk and close. they would have to then give up their lease, sell their real estate or give up license and start a new business.. i am saying through benefit concerts, george soros types who favor legalization, and coordinated donations from stoners you subsidize the individual coffeeshops or at least some in the most prime of real estate . like as in coffeeshops say "hey , we dont have to go bankrupt because we get this extra funding. we can stay in business even though we have very few customers and should go out of business in traditional scenario. now we can keep the coffeeshop and the license and are open for business for as long as we get our donations, subsidy for the stoner community and benefactors" see you are now allowing a bunch of unproductive coffeeshops to retain their presence and allow a bunch of unproductive real estate to sit in hollands prime locations in the hopes that they will eventually change the law back so that they can go back to business as usual and we can withdraw our financial support and allow them to survive on their own again.. secondly, your statement about trying to force cannabis on the majority of society of society that does not want it is kind of off the mark. i would say the right to ingest into your body what you want is pretty much a fundamental human right. would slavery have been voted down in a majority rules vote, how bout interracial marriage, gay marriage ,right to abortion ,right to burn US flag etc.our civil liberties should never be put to the vote of a usually stupid majority.

just wanted to see if you get what i am saying about locking up the real estate. you seemed to be missing what i meant . keeping the coffeeshops solvent has got to be a priority.