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Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Fri 12th Jul 2013 03:24 pm
by Slip & Sal
http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Trinidat/KalySeeds/

It says it is crossed with Japanese hops. I call BS and think it's Maple leaf Indica or Wally Duck's Duckfoot. What do you guys think?

Could they really have crossed Hops with Weed?

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Fri 12th Jul 2013 03:35 pm
by Smith2
Many, many years ago I read in The Connoisseur's Handbook of Marijuana about how to grow a cross that looked like hops, thus attracting less attention.

Sadly, I no longer have the book, and as I am botanically illiterate, have no idea whether it was possible. The book certainly seemed to give the impression that it was.

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Sat 13th Jul 2013 06:28 pm
by LionofJudah
Well as someone who has reservations about all but the most carefully bred automatics ('cause of the non-trippy ruderalis genes in there), I wonder what the point would be in crossing weed and hops.

I mean, at least cross it with a sequoia if you're gonna go through all that trouble :mrgreen:

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Sat 13th Jul 2013 06:58 pm
by HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe
LionofJudah wrote:Well as someone who has reservations about all but the most carefully bred automatics ('cause of the non-trippy ruderalis genes in there), I wonder what the point would be in crossing weed and hops.

I mean, at least cross it with a sequoia if you're gonna go through all that trouble :mrgreen:
LOL only thing is it will takeabout 1000 years to get to harvest time. :lol:

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Sat 13th Jul 2013 10:17 pm
by spidergawd
HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe wrote:
LionofJudah wrote:Well as someone who has reservations about all but the most carefully bred automatics ('cause of the non-trippy ruderalis genes in there), I wonder what the point would be in crossing weed and hops.

I mean, at least cross it with a sequoia if you're gonna go through all that trouble :mrgreen:
LOL only thing is it will takeabout 1000 years to get to harvest time. :lol:
Be a BIG F^(ker though :roll: :mrgreen:.

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Sun 14th Jul 2013 12:07 am
by elasticband
Hops and hemp are of the same plant family...Cannabaceae

as they are of the same family you should be able to "graft" either of the plants to the other, i do believe its possible to also graft to trees of the same plant family

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Sun 14th Jul 2013 12:52 am
by Sailor59
Just found this little gem.
And yes, before you ask, homebrewers have made marijuana beer. Details online are thin, because the homebrew forums actively discourage discussion of it and the pothead forums are teeth-clenchingly imprecise. All I've found is 1) dry your bud first, then 2) don't add it to the boil without first soaking it in water to get the worst of the water-soluble tars out. I have no idea why people don't try to dry-pot their beer -- despite the worries I've read from these pot-brewers, the chances of contamination from the plant is very low, especially if you pasteurize it first. As for style, I've seen reports of a very dark ale recipe. Anything with a good malt backbone should be enough to dispel whatever gnarly flavors might develop. Finally, THC is alcohol soluble, so you probably want your beer to be in the 8% ABV range for maximum extraction.
Reading between the lines, and being a long suffering brewer of choice ales, brew a really strong (OG of at least 1085) Barley Wine as normal. 5 imperial gallons should do it. When it has stopped fermenting dry pot with about an ounce of crushed weed and bang in another pound of sugar. Secondary fermentation will increase the alcohol volume and extract the THC. When it stops working, filter and clear as normal. Bottle and mature for..... oh, at least 10 minutes.

Could be an interesting couple of pints. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Sun 14th Jul 2013 03:10 am
by LionofJudah
elasticband wrote:Hops and hemp are of the same plant family...Cannabaceae

as they are of the same family you should be able to "graft" either of the plants to the other, i do believe its possible to also graft to trees of the same plant family
Yeah I know it sounds like it could be done...

<cue dramatic music> BUT WHYYYYYY??

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Sun 14th Jul 2013 12:12 pm
by spidergawd
Sailor59 wrote:Just found this little gem.
And yes, before you ask, homebrewers have made marijuana beer. Details online are thin, because the homebrew forums actively discourage discussion of it and the pothead forums are teeth-clenchingly imprecise. All I've found is 1) dry your bud first, then 2) don't add it to the boil without first soaking it in water to get the worst of the water-soluble tars out. I have no idea why people don't try to dry-pot their beer -- despite the worries I've read from these pot-brewers, the chances of contamination from the plant is very low, especially if you pasteurize it first. As for style, I've seen reports of a very dark ale recipe. Anything with a good malt backbone should be enough to dispel whatever gnarly flavors might develop. Finally, THC is alcohol soluble, so you probably want your beer to be in the 8% ABV range for maximum extraction.
Reading between the lines, and being a long suffering brewer of choice ales, brew a really strong (OG of at least 1085) Barley Wine as normal. 5 imperial gallons should do it. When it has stopped fermenting dry pot with about an ounce of crushed weed and bang in another pound of sugar. Secondary fermentation will increase the alcohol volume and extract the THC. When it stops working, filter and clear as normal. Bottle and mature for..... oh, at least 10 minutes.

Could be an interesting couple of pints. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Blimey you had my mouth watering there Sailor, but a bit heavy for todays heat. Hot day here in the city today Image

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Sun 14th Jul 2013 03:54 pm
by Slip & Sal
Grafting can definitely be done. It's Awesome when you have a big hops vine and you graft a bud a two to the ends. People try it for stealth. Breeding a cannabis vine would be cool. Breeding cannabis with a strange leaf formation also cool. Hops is also perennial. A perennial dope plant?

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Sun 14th Jul 2013 06:14 pm
by FlyByNite
Grafting hops to a cannabis root system can and has been done,

Back in the mid 70's I rented a farm with tenant house. The renter in the tenant house was a botany major at the local university. He did, it worked. A fence row of hops vine with psychoactive properties was the result. He started out with a lot of grafts. Some didn't make it more than a couple day. The survivors all grew strong and healthy.

Enjoy
FlyByNite

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Mon 15th Jul 2013 09:32 am
by Slip & Sal
Well I know the other way round grew buds, but did the hops plant have THC crystals or just in the leaf? flowers? Flybynite? Could you make hash from it?

Do you think breeding could work?

Re: Hops, what do you think?

Posted: Mon 12th Aug 2013 11:19 am
by Alon
yeah they can be crossed!!!