De Kuil (420 Cafe)

[cattales1960]

I like 420 better when it served alcohol also.

[HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe]

After 4 years of good reviews the truth comes out. The owner only wants your money. He has no interest in Cannabis Freedom. He takes advantage of the current situation and laughs his way to the bank. I will give this shop a pass from now on. I want my business to go where it is appreciated and to people like me, Cannabists, not capitalists.

Well said milehigh! ive never bought from there myself but i have been there twice,Ps maybe with a change of ownership the place could realise its full potential! but untill that day i wont buy from there also ,Another 1 for the s**t list/basket like you said with bushdoctor .

Why what happened on 'that day', I always liked the 420 personally, I always liked their SSH.
Nevermind just read MH post, what a cunt, I think I may have to start unliking 420.

[Pauli Wallnuts]

After 4 years of good reviews the truth comes out. The owner only wants your money. He has no interest in Cannabis Freedom. He takes advantage of the current situation and laughs his way to the bank. I will give this shop a pass from now on. I want my business to go where it is appreciated and to people like me, Cannabists, not capitalists.

I've been on your website milehigh its cool stuff especially when dr.polak wont let him get away with dodging the question only to be silenced, just shows the U.N is just a propaganda machine not interseted in both sides of the coin. I completely support your movement, but i do think it slightly unfair to blacklist a coffeeshop just because it wont donate to your particular organisation, though i do agree they are all capitalists (a dutch creation). You obviously have far more knowledge & info than me, just curious did you get to speak to the boss? & if so what was his reply when you explained your cause?

[sh@dy]

After 4 years of good reviews the truth comes out. The owner only wants your money. He has no interest in Cannabis Freedom. He takes advantage of the current situation and laughs his way to the bank. I will give this shop a pass from now on. I want my business to go where it is appreciated and to people like me, Cannabists, not capitalists.

I've been on your website milehigh its cool stuff especially when dr.polak wont let him get away with dodging the question only to be silenced, just shows the U.N is just a propaganda machine not interseted in both sides of the coin. I completely support your movement, but i do think it slightly unfair to blacklist a coffeeshop just because it wont donate to your particular organisation, though i do agree they are all capitalists (a dutch creation). You obviously have far more knowledge & info than me, just curious did you get to speak to the boss? & if so what was his reply when you explained your cause?

you dont live in or near the netherlands, the busines is very complicated organised, but even if a shop like 420 donated to EVERY organisation in the netherlands they would still make a lot of money(a gram of usual strains like white widow costs them around 3-4€ when they buy it and they sell it for 8-9€ so you can imagine how much profit they make out of only 1kg which isnt much for a shop in such an area), but I dont think a man who only thinks of us as money will donate to ANY of these...thats what MH wants to say IMHO, I dont think he would post something like this if it was only about his own organisation he isnt the type to do so....correct me if I am wrong

[Pauli Wallnuts]

After 4 years of good reviews the truth comes out. The owner only wants your money. He has no interest in Cannabis Freedom. He takes advantage of the current situation and laughs his way to the bank. I will give this shop a pass from now on. I want my business to go where it is appreciated and to people like me, Cannabists, not capitalists.

I've been on your website milehigh its cool stuff especially when dr.polak wont let him get away with dodging the question only to be silenced, just shows the U.N is just a propaganda machine not interseted in both sides of the coin. I completely support your movement, but i do think it slightly unfair to blacklist a coffeeshop just because it wont donate to your particular organisation, though i do agree they are all capitalists (a dutch creation). You obviously have far more knowledge & info than me, just curious did you get to speak to the boss? & if so what was his reply when you explained your cause?

you dont live in or near the netherlands, the busines is very complicated organised, but even if a shop like 420 donated to EVERY organisation in the netherlands they would still make a lot of money(a gram of usual strains like white widow costs them around 3-4€ when they buy it and they sell it for 8-9€ so you can imagine how much profit they make out of only 1kg which isnt much for a shop in such an area), but I dont think a man who only thinks of us as money will donate to ANY of these...thats what MH wants to say IMHO, I dont think he would post something like this if it was only about his own organisation he isnt the type to do so....correct me if I am wrong

I dont live that far, 55mins. as you read in my previous post i FULLY support milehighs organisation, but why should a coffeeshop be outcast because it doesn't wish to donate to every single organisation,thats why i asked what the boss's answer to milehigh was when he asked for a donation.i have no problem with them making millions of pounds (we dont live in a communist europe where making money is illegal) as long as they provide a good service, which 420 has always done with me + i would have thought they pay less than 3-4euros for a gram of ww

[liquidSwords]

I've been on your website milehigh its cool stuff especially when dr.polak wont let him get away with dodging the question only to be silenced, just shows the U.N is just a propaganda machine not interseted in both sides of the coin. I completely support your movement, but i do think it slightly unfair to blacklist a coffeeshop just because it wont donate to your particular organisation, though i do agree they are all capitalists (a dutch creation). You obviously have far more knowledge & info than me, just curious did you get to speak to the boss? & if so what was his reply when you explained your cause?

you dont live in or near the netherlands, the busines is very complicated organised, but even if a shop like 420 donated to EVERY organisation in the netherlands they would still make a lot of money(a gram of usual strains like white widow costs them around 3-4€ when they buy it and they sell it for 8-9€ so you can imagine how much profit they make out of only 1kg which isnt much for a shop in such an area), but I dont think a man who only thinks of us as money will donate to ANY of these...thats what MH wants to say IMHO, I dont think he would post something like this if it was only about his own organisation he isnt the type to do so....correct me if I am wrong

I dont live that far, 55mins. as you read in my previous post i FULLY support milehighs organisation, but why should a coffeeshop be outcast because it doesn't wish to donate to every single organisation,thats why i asked what the boss's answer to milehigh was when he asked for a donation.i have no problem with them making millions of pounds (we dont live in a communist europe where making money is illegal) as long as they provide a good service, which 420 has always done with me + i would have thought they pay less than 3-4euros for a gram of ww

As far as i am concerned, every coffeeshop is in place to make money... and make money De Kuil does. So what if the owner is a little outspoken, so was Jose Morinho when in charge at Chelsea and everybody loved him!!!.... Weed is a money making business, otherwise it would be legal over the whole world to legally grow what amount you wanted to consume, everybody involved in making money off weed is involved, whether thats the owner of De Kuil (great coffeeshop), whethers thats a paraphinalia shop, or whether it is Mile High (who offers tours for guess what £££), good luck... I personally wouldnt take a Ganja Tour as i believe it would be a waste of money, but im sure if i sat down with Mile High over a nice doobie we'd have a good conversation about weed cultures...and so on......

I would still visit De Kuil as ive never had a complaint about them, always found their staff friendly and helpful and always had good weed out of there.....

[Puffin13]

was allways wondering why ACD people like that that coffeeshop so much coz i really dont see wots good about it...

I wonder the same thing, beejun. I dont think it is all that special. There are many other shops that deserve our hard earned money and have better herb too. I dont get it. Oh yea! It's tradition.

[milehigh]

. I completely support your movement, but i do think it slightly unfair to blacklist a coffeeshop just because it wont donate to your particular organisation, though i do agree they are all capitalists (a dutch creation). You obviously have far more knowledge & info than me, just curious did you get to speak to the boss? & if so what was his reply when you explained your cause?

I appreciate your support. I have personally blacklisted DeKuil and stated my reasons. Everyone is very free to make their own choice. It's not like my opinion is going to affect thousands of coffeeshop visitors. I just thought since we are a community here I could share my opinion and it would be considered at least.

Yes I spoke to the boss as I have many times before. I did not ask him for any donation. His position was not clear to me until recently. I am not a good enough writer to go into detail about all that was said. It was just crystal clear that he does not like cannabis smokers or cannabis. He thinks we are drug addicts and he only wants our money as long as he can get it. He has no interest in preserving the Amsterdam cannabis culture.

Yes all shops are in business to make money. Thats how they pay their rent and buy their groceries just like the rest of us. Some do it with proper motivation and smoke their own products and some do it for the money and don't smoke their own products. I choose to do business with people that feel the same way I do. You can do business where ever you want.

This is the last thing I have to say about DeKuil. The owner is not a good person and does not deserve your business in my opinion.

[milehigh]

strains like white widow costs them around 3-4€ when they buy it and they sell it for 8-9€ so you can imagine how much profit they make out of only 1kg which isnt much for a shop in such an area), but I dont think a man who only thinks of us as money will donate to ANY of these...thats what MH wants to say IMHO, I dont think he would post something like this if it was only about his own organisation he isnt the type to do so....correct me if I am wrong

Did you know all coffeeshops are forced to mark up the product by a minimum of 100% by the tax authority? Weird huh?

Would you like to know more about coffeeshop policy and rules? Check with liquidswords.

[Puffin13]

I appreciate your support. I have personally blacklisted DeKuil and stated my reasons. Everyone is very free to make their own choice. It's not like my opinion is going to affect thousands of coffeeshop visitors. I just thought since we are a community here I could share my opinion and it would be considered at least.

Yes I spoke to the boss as I have many times before. I did not ask him for any donation. His position was not clear to me until recently. I am not a good enough writer to go into detail about all that was said. It was just crystal clear that he does not like cannabis smokers or cannabis. He thinks we are drug addicts and he only wants our money as long as he can get it. He has no interest in preserving the Amsterdam cannabis culture.

Yes all shops are in business to make money. Thats how they pay their rent and buy their groceries just like the rest of us. Some do it with proper motivation and smoke their own products and some do it for the money and don't smoke their own products. I choose to do business with people that feel the same way I do. You can do business where ever you want.

This is the last thing I have to say about DeKuil. The owner is not a good person and does not deserve your business in my opinion.

Make no mistake about it mh, we (or at least I) appreciate your insight and knowledge of the cannabis scene in Holland. It is normal that everyone is not going to agree with what you say but at least they cant say they didnt know better. Keep on truckin', mile high. Peace n Pot.

[milehigh]

[ I personally wouldnt take a Ganja Tour as i believe it would be a waste of money,

Of course you have absolutely no idea at all, but I appreciate your comment anyway. You just believe wrong. My tours are the most fantastic tours ever. Every single guest without exception has said it was the highlight of their trip. Many have hired my company for a second day after the first tour.

Are you one of the guys standing in the cues we laugh at?

cheers,

mh

[HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe]

I dont know where you heard that liquid swords but I have yet to hear a bad word about MH ganja tours, well I have from you 2 minutes ago. Anyone that I have read that went on them lovd every minute of them.

[sh@dy]

strains like white widow costs them around 3-4€ when they buy it and they sell it for 8-9€ so you can imagine how much profit they make out of only 1kg which isnt much for a shop in such an area), but I dont think a man who only thinks of us as money will donate to ANY of these...thats what MH wants to say IMHO, I dont think he would post something like this if it was only about his own organisation he isnt the type to do so....correct me if I am wrong

Did you know all coffeeshops are forced to mark up the product by a minimum of 100% by the tax authority? Weird huh?

Would you like to know more about coffeeshop policy and rules? Check with liquidswords.

sorry to quote this in this thread, but did I get it right, that coffeeshops HAVE to double the price of the weed?

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

I dont know where you heard that liquid swords but I have yet to hear a bad word about MH ganja tours, well I have from you 2 minutes ago. Anyone that I have read that went on them lovd every minute of them.

Same, all the people ive heard from have seriously enjoyed it, and tbh if someone is deserving of your buisness its MH, and he provides smoke on the trip. So your paying for good smoke and a walk/bike round 'dam with someone who knows the city and knows the weed.

MH i appreciate your points, it will make me think about the shops i enter. I have previously mentioned i really like Siberia i didnt know it was related to other shops you mentioned. I dont like Dampkring, its a bit too hetic for me, but its nice to hear that at least one more commerical shops is doing its part.

For me i like 420, i like the vibes the music and the NYCD. It has a wikid bakery opposite, there owner may be a Douche Bag. But ive never met him, ive always been treated nicely there, and some of my best times have been in there. I think the buds in there are very nice, i would put it up there with Mellow Yellow, Paradox and Picasso with my preferred places to score.

Its a same to hear about the owner, but, i think the shop is definantly worth a visit, at least in my books. MH its interesting to get a view into the personal ideals of a coffeeshop, thanks for that man. I hope eventually you may be able to change the scene out there to a scene closer to the oringnal ideas of the cannabis community.

[Boner]

I dont know where you heard that liquid swords but I have yet to hear a bad word about MH ganja tours, well I have from you 2 minutes ago. Anyone that I have read that went on them lovd every minute of them.

I dont think he heard it he just gave his opinion re: him personally, I think to a new visitor to the city/country a Ganja Tour would be a good way to go (I always say new visitors should take a canal tour with one of those large boats as they give you a feel to the city) but those that have been multiple times wouldn't get as much out of it as others.