Wanna try to grow.

PirateRaff · Post by **PirateRaff** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 02:36 pm

I want to try to grow a few plants, just like 1 or 2. using a cheap simple plantlight and such. but i was woundering is there any indica/indicasativa cross plants you reccomend that dont exceed 60 cm/23.6 inches? i have limited space so 23inches is max

Carlos · Post by **Carlos** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 04:10 pm

lowryders would be ok with that height

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 04:23 pm

Yeah Lowryders would be the way too go, I'd get some Lowryder 2 or Diesel Ryders.

PirateRaff · Post by **PirateRaff** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 05:06 pm

how much dried does these give per plant?

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 05:09 pm

Impossible to say as it all depends on the grow, you wont get a lot off them though especially if you use a small wattage bulb.

codejd · Post by **codejd** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 05:22 pm

use your favorite strain and do sea of green method...

PirateRaff · Post by **PirateRaff** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 05:25 pm

sea of green method?

PirateRaff · Post by **PirateRaff** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 06:25 pm

Is there possible to buy just a little lamp for small spaces? so the plant can be fairly close to the light

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 08:40 pm

PirateRaff wrote:Is there possible to buy just a little lamp for small spaces? so the plant can be fairly close to the light

CFL's.

echc1 · Post by **echc1** » Mon 13th Apr 2009 09:50 pm

yep cfl's are ideal as boner and i have discussed, ideal for small spaces but not as powerful as other types...i have used them and not had to buy smoke for a few years now....good luck ,happy growing

codejd · Post by **codejd** » Wed 15th Apr 2009 07:56 am

PirateRaff wrote:sea of green method?

SEA OF GREEN - Cannabis Growing Guide

Sea of Green (SOG) is the theory of harvesting lots of small plants, matured early to get the fastest production of buds available. Instead of growing a few plants for a longer period of time, in the same space many smaller plants are grown that mature faster and in less time. Thus, less time is required between crops. This is important to you when the electricity bill comes each month. One crop can be started while another is maturing, and a continuous harvest, year round can be maintained. 4 plants per square foot will be a good start for seedlings. 1 plant per square foot will allow plenty of room for each plant to grow a large top cola, but will not allow for much bottom branching. This is OK since indoors, these bottom branches are always shaded anyway, and will not grow very well unless given additional light and space. The indoor grower quickly realizes that plants that are too tall do not produce enough at the bottom to make the extra growing time used worth while. An exception to this rule would be if it is intended the plants are to go outside at some point, and it is expected that the light/shading issue will not be a factor at that point.

The plants, if started at the same time, should create what is called a "green canopy" that traps most of the light at the top level of the plants. Little light will penetrate below this level, since the plants are so close together. The gardener is attempting to concentrate on the top of the plant, and use the light and space to the best advantage, in as little time as possible. Use of nylon poultry fence or similar trellising laid out over the green canopy will support the plants as they start to droop under the weight of heavy fruiting tops. Stakes can be used too, but are not as easy to install for plants in the middle and back of the room, where reach is more difficult.

It is easy to want big plants, since they will produce more yield per plant, but it is usually better with limited space to grow smaller plants that mature faster and pack into smaller spaces. Sea of Green was developed in Holland. Instead of fitting 4 large plants in that small room, fit 12 small ones on a shelf above 12 other small plants. These plants take only 3-4 months to mature from germination to ripe buds, and harvesting takes place constantly, since there is both a vegetative and flowering area devoted to each, with harvests every 45-60 days.

It is not the size of the plant, but the maturity and quality of the product that counts. Twice as many plants grown half as big will fill the grow space twice as fast, so harvests take place almost twice as often. Get good at picking early flowering plants, and propagate only those that are of the best quality.

6" square containers will allow for 4 plants per square foot. You may also gauge by the size of your growing tray (for passive hydroponics); I like kitty litter boxes. ($3 each at Target) Planted 4 per square foot, (for vegatative seedlings) a 12 sq. ft. closet will hold 48 seedlings on one shelf. In my case, I use 4" rockwool cubes that fit into kitty litter pans @ 12 cubes per pan. I can get 5 pans onto a 12 sq. ft. closet upper shelf, so that is 60 seedlings on one small shelf!

For flowering indoors, 1 plant per sq. ft. is a good rule of thumb for SOG. If less plants are grown in this size space, it will take them longer to fill the space, thus more electricity and time will be used to create the same amount of product. If more than one plant p.s.f. is attempted, the grower will soon find that plants thus crowded tend to be more stem than bud, and the total harvest may be reduced, so be cautious.

It is good to avoid "topping" your plants if you want them to grow as fast as possible. It is better just to grow 2 or 4 times more plants, since they will produce more, faster, in the same space. Also, "training" plants with twist-ties is a great way to get them to bush out a bit. Just take any type of plastic or paper twist tie and wrap it around the top of the plant, then pull it over until the top is bent over 90-180 degrees and then attach this to the main stem lower on the plant. Do this for one week and then release the plant from it is bond. The plant can be trained in this fashion to take less vertical space and to grow bushier, to fill the grow space and force lower limbs to grow upward and join the green canopy. This technique takes advantage of the fact that if the top is pulled over, it creates a hormonal condition in the plant that makes it bush out at all lower internodes.

Sea of Green entails growing to harvest the main cola (top) of the plant. Bottom branches are trimmed to increase air flow under the "blanket" of growing tops. Use these cuttings for clones, as they are the easiest part of the plant to root. It is also the fastest part of the plant to regenerate after flowering has occurred.

good luck!

Ingwey Gooblebogger · Wed 15th Apr 2009 10:06 pm

Yes, but keep in mind that SOG works best when growing only one strain (or strains with nearly identical growth patterns).

If you like to grow a variety of strains then you might have to make accomodations for potentially different growth rates (i.e. elevate the slower growing ones with something like old phone books and so on. )

codejd · Post by **codejd** » Thu 16th Apr 2009 01:16 pm

Ingwey Gooblebogger wrote:Yes, but keep in mind that SOG works best when growing only one strain (or strains with nearly identical growth patterns).

If you like to grow a variety of strains then you might have to make accomodations for potentially different growth rates (i.e. elevate the slower growing ones with something like old phone books and so on. )

an excellent point

Dobern · Post by **Dobern** » Thu 16th Apr 2009 07:55 pm

This has taken my interest as a possible solution to bouts of drought.

Couple of questions if I may:

1. If I were to grow 4 plants at a time, how many/what wattage/type bulbs would one use?

2. Would a set up like this require any elaborate ventilation, or could I set up in the house and just open the containment every now and then to change the air?

Any help would be much appreciated!

DuhhaN · Post by **DuhhaN** » Fri 19th Jun 2009 06:02 pm

Dobern wrote:This has taken my interest as a possible solution to bouts of drought.

Couple of questions if I may:

1. If I were to grow 4 plants at a time, how many/what wattage/type bulbs would one use?

2. Would a set up like this require any elaborate ventilation, or could I set up in the house and just open the containment every now and then to change the air?

Any help would be much appreciated!

uuuuh your good p.s. I have the same question please... ? Can anyone help?